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John Steed said:
( November 18th, 2023 @ 12:05 pm )
Little Bobbie, your side's "science" on climate lacks credibility. Climategate exsposed them as a bunch of manipulative hucksters. They are batting ZERO on their dire predictions, dozens of which have passed the time some calamity was supposed to happen and NONE of them have come true or even close. Climate alarmism is Chicklen Little on steroids.
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Little Bobbie, you should listen to prominent scientists from around the world debunking manmade global warming theory. They are interviewed in a British TV documentary entitled "The Great Global Warming Swindle" which was broadcast nationally on the UK's Channel 4. The Earth has always gone through alternating warming and cooling cycles and the claim that CO2 effects climate is disproven by facts.
www.youtube.com I know the globalists and far left have a lot of political capital invested in promoting the climate carbon cult but real science proves them wrong. |
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That's the ting about science, there will alway be disagreement, but smoking causes cancer, seatbelts save lives, leaded gas was making kids stupid, and made made carbon pollution is heating the earth. The debate rages, but all these things are true.
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The climate alarmists having been refusing to debate their theory for years. Real science is always open to debate. Einstein was always willing to and did debate his theory of relativity. The fact that they refuse to debate tells you this is a political doctrine, not science.
Dr. Vaclav Klaus, former prime minister and president of the Czech Republic, hit the nail on the head when he described climate alarmism as "a budding totalitarian ideology that is the greatest threat to freedom, democracy, and prosperity in the world today." I would love to see a debate between former President Klaus and former Vice President Gore on this subject, each with a scientist of choice. Klaus would mop the floor with Gore and that is the reason the climate alarmists run like scared rabbits from debates on their wobbly theory. But President Klaus lays it all out in a book entitled "Blue Planet in Green Shackles: What is in Jeopardy, climate or freedom?" which has been published in eight languages. |
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There really isn't much debate. But per usual, there are those with loud voices who think the world is flat.
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We should remember that when Little Bobbie uses the word "true" what he really means is "consistent with the far left narrative". Climate alarmism is a key part of the far left's narrative.
But when one looks at truth in an objective sense, it is important to consider that of the dozens of dire predictions made by the climate alarmists that have already passed the date by which they were supposed to happen, not a single one of them has come true or even come close. They are batting ZERO on their predictions. That gives a very good insight as to the credibility of the rest of their malarky. Those who are proven untrue by their own false predictions, dozens of them, are the climate alarmists. |
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There is a debate in science, so we should not be going hog wild on one side.
The 1600 scientists who signed the letter take a position consistent with conventional climate science and with the observations of climate cycles that have occured in the past, as well as current data. The climate alarmist scientists, on the other hand, take a radical new approach, promoted with political money in the 1980s and since. The climate alarmist scientists have also been caught scheming to cover up facts and data that disprove their theory in the Climategate emails The last multi-century cycle of global warming, the Medieval Warm Period came to a natural end and went into a cooling cycle, the Little Ice Age. I have yet to hear the climate alarmist scientists try to explain how CO2 and such "caused" the Medieval Warm Period, when it was warmer than it is today and nothing bad happened as a result. In fact, it was a period of great wealth and human progress. Maybe the climate alarmists might claim it was horse farts from all those knights riding around? Or take the granddaddy of all warm cycles, the Holocene Maximum, when it was MUCH warmer than today for 3,000 years. That coincided with the Bronze Age of human development and the heyday of ancient Greek civilization. We know from ancient Greek history that there were no bad outcomes from that warm period. You are just a cultist Bobbie. |
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Big Bob: Yeah, that sounds just like the so-called "Intelligence Intelligentsia within the Obama sphere of Appeasement and Sophistry," who signed the letter claiming "Russian Disinformation Regarding the Hunter Biden Laptop," after the FBI had held said laptop in their possession, for their perusal, for about a year; most of whom of these Bureaucratic Fools are still drawing a government check, some of the organizers of this maddening crowd of these Corrupt Stupids still working in the Idiot President's administration.
Big Bob: You Leftist Fools sure know a plenty about lying through letters. Thanks for your "informed" observation. |
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1600 scientists can sign a letter stating their poop doesn't stink, but it doesn't make it true.
Personally I think climate change is a symptom of the real problem. The real problem, in my view, is that the earth has reached its carrying capacity. Anyone who hunts deer knows an area of land can support a population of a certain size. Many variables involved but when the population expands beyond the capacity of the land to support it, we know what happens. In my view, when it comes humans, the earth is fast reaching its capacity to support us and we all know what happens. The heating climate is but a symptom. |
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There was just a statement put out by 1600 scientists, led by two Nobel prize winners, one of whom was the most recent Nobel winner in Physics, that declared that "there is no climate emergency". While there are other scientists with a political or personal financial agenda (climate alarmism makes for lots of government grant money for them) who claim otherwise, it was shown they are scammers when their emails were hacked in Climategate.
Long time climate science has shown that the Earth goes through centuries long warming and cooling cycles. The last cooling cycle, which was particularly cold compared to others, was known as the Little Ice Age or the Maunder Minimum and ended in the 19th century. Earth has been in a natural warming cycle, that has nothing to do with CO2 or cow farts, since then. There are also shorter term natural warming and cooling cycles like El Nino and La Nina that last a year or two or three. It is all a natural process not manmade. Climate alarmism is a cult, the largest doomsday cult the world has ever seen, and its members really ought to get professional help to be deprogrammed. Here's looking at you, Little Bobbie. |
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No easy answers for sure but we are heating up the planet and will face the consequences whatever they may be. Buckle up.
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So you want to destroy lots more crabs, as well as lobsters, sea birds, and marine mammals, including critically endangered Atlantic Right Whales with offshore wind turbines? "Save the Whales" used to be an environmentalist rallying cry, but now the climate alarmists consider whales just collateral damage in their mad drive to industrialize our oceans with wind turbines.
Short term events like the one you are talking about have nothing to do with CO2 except to the climate alarmist kool aid drinkers like you, Little Bobbie. It was a short term natural event and it is now over. |
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