Why the Turnage cannot be saved | Eastern North Carolina Now

    Publisher's Note: This article originally appeared in the Beaufort Observer.

    The local mullet wrapper is pushing the Turnage again. It recently published an article about the bank putting the building on the market for sale. Between the lines the piece fantasizes about the Turnage surviving. It speaks about getting a hotel downtown and maybe the City will bail out the idea.

    So we think it appropriate that we say it one more time. There is no hope for saving the Turnage. Here's why.

    The simple fact is the Turnage does not have enough seats to ever break even as an entertainment venue, even if there was a hotel across the street. People who dream otherwise simply do not understand the business principle of unit costs vs. unit revenue. It is an immutable law of economics that your revenue must exceed your costs if you are going to sustain a business. There is no way for the Turnage to do that. Bill's Hot Dogs proves it.

    Imagine is Bill's operated as a sit down restaurant. How many hot dogs would it have to sell if the only way it sold hot dogs was for you to go in, sit at a table, booth or stool and order the hot dogs to be brought to your table. How much would each hot dog have to sell for? Could that be done?
The Barefoot Movement playing upon the Turnage's stage during much better days on July 9, 2011: Above.     photo by Stan Deatherage

    The Turnage is reported to have less than 500 seats. To fill those seats you would have to offer attractive events or shows. To do that you have to pay the current market rates for entertainers. The best entertainers command high fees. There is a reason they do. They can get what they are asking for somewhere else. If you try to book less expensive entertainers people will choose to go elsewhere where then can see the best. It is very difficult to cut your unit costs in the entertainment business. This simple fact is why you are constantly hearing about professional sports teams wanting larger stadiums. If you have to pay more for the product (entertainers) sufficient to draw ticket sales you have to sell enough tickets at a given price to bring in enough revenue to cover your costs--operating costs plus the product costs. If you increase your ticket price beyond the market's point of diminishing returns you lose revenue. If you lower your ticket price enough to produce enough sales you have to sell more tickets. If your seating capacity is limited you simply cannot produce enough revenue to sustain the operation.

    The only way the Turnage could survive as an entertainment venue is to be subsidized. That would come from either philanthropists or the government. If enough people are unwilling to give donations to support an enterprise then eventually the government will be unable to sustain the political ability to do so also. Short term the government can use public funds and get by with it, but eventually enough people will turn against the officials voting to subsidize a failing operation so that even the government cannot continue to subsidize it. That is true even if the government subsidy comes in the form of "grants." Eventually the grantors will not increase their contributions sufficient to sustain the enterprise if the unit costs continue to rise faster than the revenue. Subsidization eventually yields to the immutable Law of Supply and Demand.

    To prove the point about the Fatality of Subsidization consider this: The argument most frequently given for justifying the Turnage is that it will generate traffic downtown. If that were true the merchants downtown would be willing to pay a tax for the Turnage. They are not willing to do that. And the reason they are not is that the Turnage would not increase their unit revenue as much as their unit costs would go up as a result of the tax.

    Now for the economists reading this we acknowledge that in reality it is not a dilemma of "unit" costs and revenue but margin costs vs. marginal revenue. But that complication is not necessary to settle the question of whether the Turnage could survive.

    The problem with the Turnage is that the well-intentioned people who dreamed that "if we build it they will come" did not factor in the eventual unit cost vs. unit revenue dilemma. And specifically, they did not factor in the inherent limitation imposed by the number of seats in the facility. Even if you operate more days per month, it simply digs the hole deeper if your unit costs exceed your unit revenue.

    We said it when they started talking about reviving the Turnage: It cannot survive over the long term.
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( March 13th, 2013 @ 10:05 pm )
 
yeah and he did it without any government money, nonprofit largess; same difference, and he did it to provide a service and to make money for himself, his family.

I think that is referred to as common capitalism.
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( March 13th, 2013 @ 9:49 pm )
 
Hum. Ya'll are talking about an actual money making business serving a need in the community. Isn't that what C.A. Turnage did to begin with? What a concept in 21st Century America.
( March 13th, 2013 @ 10:36 am )
 
Lisa, you know and understand the essence of my plan.

Also, there is the promotion component and that is complicated, pseudo proprietary for our capabilities at SNI, but the crux of the Turnage is that it must be used, enjoyed.

The Turnage must be for everyone, and I know who those people are, and what kinds of music they enjoy and how to recruit the talent at a reasonable price. That actually ties back into what I can do for them on the net, a variable that others naturally struggle with.
( March 13th, 2013 @ 10:29 am )
 
The Turnage is a beautiful facility. Lovingly restored through the hard work, sweat and financial support of some very well meaning and dedicated people. I mean no disrespect to any of them in the comment I am going to make. Is it a museum...or a working theater? Until it is accepted that drinks are going to be splilled, walls are going to be scuffed, carpet is going to get stains and that every event is not going to be a culturally enlightening, high brow affair...it's never going to work.
( March 11th, 2013 @ 10:14 am )
 
Charles, my plan supports many partners with many talents coming together to save a landmark, make money and have fun doing it.

Not everyone has to have large sums of "skin in the game", even I don't want too vested; however, I want to be in it enough to push the plan through, and deal with the certain egos that come with some money.

Ego is a wonderful thing. Someone, like me, needs a certain sense of self, or they would have a hard time suiting up every day to deal with complex issues with the certain detractors who haven't a clue; however, I do realize that there are some who have an overextended sense of self, irrespective of whatever success they may have enjoyed.

The building, the hope, the promise, and the fun of the Turnage can be saved, but egos will have to be checked at the door, and my ideas will need to fully implemented for this plan to work.

There is one necessity, however: No government involvement at any level. My history is that government is not qualified to make good decisions. Not enough good, honest, sensible politicians - not by half.
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( March 11th, 2013 @ 9:31 am )
 
Stan,

About your proposal: Am I qualified to do so? Probably not! Do I have the spare cash? Definitely not! But, if I did have the spare cash I might consider such a venture. You see, that place means a lot to me in memories and history.

C.A. Turnage was the reason one of my grandfathers came to Washington; they partnered in another one of Mr. Turnage's businesses and they were friends and neighbors for the rest of their lives. Mr. Turnage was an important mentor to my grandfather. My grandmother, who was a Peabody Institute trained pianist, played for the silent movies in the Theater for a time. I grew up with the stories of my grandfather waiting through several movies to finally go on a date with grandmother. Of course my own memories of the Turnage go back as far as I can remember; lot's of stories and memories for me and many others; the memories of different eras.

Ah, for a world without those pesky problems of cash flow and credit.

Charles
( March 10th, 2013 @ 2:39 pm )
 
Just not by any government entity, or by some "nonprofit" sucking on the public teat.

Certainly the City of Washington is not capable since they have long been managerially challenged. This lost bunch make the Beaufort County Commissioners look like geniuses by relative comparison, and who would have ever thought that could be possible.

However, after all said here, I actually have a foolproof plan on how to save the Turnage, and trust me on this one point, it requires no government assistance with those nasty, stupid strings attached. In fact, I may be the only uniquely qualified individual around these parts to have the potential to accomplish such, or ... whoever does attempt this quixotic quest will eventually, or better - very quickly - need my group's unique abilities ... if they are smart ... but then again, when has smart ever mattered when putting together a long term plan to purposefully effect real change around here. With the foreseeable challenges on the near horizon, it just matters very much now to be smarter - way smarter. I'm betting heavily on this.

If anyone is interested, you can contact me, but since this does not pertain to any of my jobs that I am already paid for, you better be serious, and you best bring money or know where to get some ... fast.

Remember this one truth: The Turnage Theater can be saved for, pretty much, ever, but it will require no government assistance, and complete thinking "outside of the box," which is not a very popular thing to do around here.

You qualified to do so?



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