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North Carolina attorney general Roy Cooper is starting to remind me of Peter Gibbons, the main character in the cult hit movie "Office Space."

On this one, Stan, I would have to say you are about neck deep in your rut!
Commented: Tuesday, August 12th, 2014 @ 6:50 am By: Gene Scarborough
Well, now Conservative v Liberal is more a perception of truth over fantasy; knowing math over not knowing math, and knowing the world for what it really is, rather than the way you wish it to be.

Anyway, if Liberals were such thoughtful executors: Why would women's reproductive rights, above all else, be their one issue?
Commented: Monday, August 11th, 2014 @ 11:21 pm By: Stan Deatherage
It is amazing how we look at the same set of people and see things almost in opposite ways. Unlike the Commissioners, I am will to compromise on some realistic view.

H.L. Menkin defined Conservatives as "My contemporary ancestors." I like that and it seems to be most accurate.

I watched Conservatives take over the Southern Baptist Convention and CONSERVE NOTHING! It sounded good, but it was an excuse to put in places of power ONLY those of like mind and single direction. Lies and distortions proved "the end justifies the means to it." Jesus would call them Pharisees bent on control and distortion. I will let his words of Matthew 23 speak for themselves.

"Liberal" to me means a spirit of openness to possibilities not yet conceived. Such was the attitude of our Founding Fathers who decided the way of the rich and controllers of England and Europe needed a change for better. The rich were in control and getting richer / the poor and working class had not chance because only the first-born son of a rich family could inherit the wealth. Fathers bought land grants in the New World so their other children could have a chance. It was a great risk with great danger, but it was all about OPPORTUNITY.

Church and State were supposed to be separate / religion was to be the choice of the individual / the vote of each citizen was paramount to the success of the new experiment.

It appears to me that the current Conservatives have recreated everything our ancestors left behind 200+ years ago.

I could be wrong, but my last name is Scarborough of Scarborough, England and Scarborough Castle, and my ancestors were not the lucky eldest son!!! We wanted freedom and opportunity without the law beating us into serfdom.
Commented: Monday, August 11th, 2014 @ 8:33 pm By: Gene Scarborough
My impression from years of observation:

Liberals: feel rather than think; they accept pre-planned thinking constructs readily, they tend to look at the world outside of any historical context; and at no point do they do any math. One more point: They believe the constitution to be a flexible document that can be used as a tool by activist judges, i.e. Roe v. Wade.

Conservatives (real): Tend to be guided by principled motives, can do math very well, and believe that the constitution is a guide for all current and future governing. One other pertinent fact: Getting Conservatives on the same page on any issue, that is not based in pure Conservative principles, is 'like herding cats'.
Commented: Monday, August 11th, 2014 @ 11:21 am By: Stan Deatherage
Would anyone care to define "Liberal / Conservative." The terms get thrown around rather "liberally" of late!
Commented: Monday, August 11th, 2014 @ 10:03 am By: Gene Scarborough
We 'are a nation of laws, not of Men.'

It was part of the Jaycee Creed, and I never fully knew what it meant until I became a county commissioner, and learned to govern by real principles, and the laws, as imperfect as some may be, that bind all of us.

I think that is why I have always been so offended by RINOs like McRoy and Klemm. They made up the rules as they went along.
Commented: Sunday, August 10th, 2014 @ 11:20 pm By: Stan Deatherage
One of the more disturbing aspects in our times as citizens of the United States and North Crolina is the fact that modern day liberals in the government seem to think it is up to them to enforce or not to enforce laws as they please.
Commented: Sunday, August 10th, 2014 @ 10:52 pm By:
Simply, it is the law, and some us still believe that we 'are a nation of laws'.
Commented: Sunday, August 10th, 2014 @ 12:47 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Do we really want our AG and costly staff fighting a Constitutional battle in a Federal Court??? Especially where there is a great divide in the citizens of NC???

If those wanting to keep the Marriage Amendment want to keep it, let them pay for the defense~~~not NC taxpayers who have many more important issues under investigation/prosecution now!
Commented: Sunday, August 10th, 2014 @ 12:31 pm By: Gene Scarborough
I think Jesus was more in the salvation business rather than the Hell and damnation line of work.

Now the Old Testament guys ... well ... it's all there.

Regardless, the Attorney General serves as the state's attorney, and he represents the laws of North Carolina, irrespective of his political desires.
Commented: Saturday, August 9th, 2014 @ 8:52 pm By: Stan Deatherage
I DID NOT vote for the Marriage Amendment because, while I don't approve of homosexual activity, those who are bent that way still have their freedom to choose their way and be legally united. The voters of this state are easily persuaded when you pull our our Patron Saint at the last minute, Billy Graham, to say he is for it.

Sorry folks, I think for myself. If Jesus said, "Homosexuals are in sin and headed to hell," I would follow Him. He said NOTHING so I say nothing but, "Love one another as God loves you / forgive one another."

We are a divided state --- as all others --- on such a volatile matter. It is tantamount to Slavery in volatility. If our AG advocated for slavery, he would be roasted over a hot fire. On the other hand, the ones so homophobic as to hate gays, are holding them in slavery to southern prejudice (pronounced in public / while we know and tolerate them in local communities = pretense / hippocracy!
Commented: Saturday, August 9th, 2014 @ 8:03 pm By: Gene Scarborough
With the greatest of respect, I am not someone who hangs on Pat Robertson's every word.
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 1:51 pm By: Stan Deatherage
Here is an example of Pat Robertson and political agenda: www.facebook.com
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 1:18 pm By: Gene Scarborough
And I agree with most of that; however, I hope you agree that prayer to the one true God should not be restricted from any event that is partially paid for by our tax dollars.

Even Muslims should not have a problem with this, for Allah is supposed to be another moniker for Yaweh, but even if they did ... tough beans.

For me the Atheist have no say in such, nor those that hate the Christian faith.

It is time to stand up for Christ, and especially his followers, as now they are being so roundly persecuted by belligerents and haters of the free exercise of freedom of religion.

This is what our Forefathers had in mind in the first Amendment: To forbid in America what is now happening in Iraq to Christians, and kind, good Muslims, who love the one true God - not the evil one fabricated by the Islamists, the Jihadists.
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 9:48 am By: Stan Deatherage
Actually, we are agreed!!! I see churches of Conservative persuasion coming more together with the purpose of influencing and controlling government.

If you look at the composition of Boards with Liberty University / Pat Robertson's in Chesapeake / etc., you have collusion and political planning of the same kind as the Forefathers wished to leave off the Constitutional scene.

In my view, we are widening the scope of consideration for a good future in America. Those hating the Muslim, Mormon, Catholic, etc. views have no backing from the Constitution~~~if they want to banish them.
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 9:33 am By: Gene Scarborough
And then the first Amendment continues: "or continuing the free exercise thereof".

The first amendment is not about restricting religion from our nation, ti is about not sanctioning one religion over another, such as the "Church of England" from Henry VIII's time as the King of England wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon, but could not because it would not be sanctioned by e Pope Clement IV.

Our Forefathers would have none of that as if they were Anglicans or Catholics, and lives being controlled by such.

No, the First of Amendment is about: Free Speech, about gathering to hear free speech, especially political speech, a free press to broadcast that free speech, and freedom of religion, rather than freedom from religion.

You'll be hard pressed to find a freedom from religion clause in the U.S. Constitution.

Try again.
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 9:13 am By: Stan Deatherage
Here is an example of the AG's role in NC:
www.ncdoj.gov

Ass to Constitution / Separation of Church and State: "Congress shall make no law . . ." is the start of that important segment, Stan.
Commented: Saturday, August 2nd, 2014 @ 6:43 am By: Gene Scarborough
My opinion was offered as a principled man ... never mentioned the word conservative; however, true Conservatives are the most principled politicians I have ever met, or served with, and we are few.

I do appreciate the implication, obviously due to my more clear understanding of Fiduciary over your Attorney General's understanding of it.

Not to pick bones, but there is no language about 'the separation of Church and State' in the U.S. Constitution. That I am remarkably clear on.
Commented: Friday, August 1st, 2014 @ 9:31 pm By: Stan Deatherage
"However, in the NC Constitution, they is very little stipulation as to the duties of the attorney general."

You begin with admission that duties are not specified / you end with your opinion as a Conservative. You throw out the "liberal" word as if it were some disease.

How about we use the phrase "citizens / people" without the pejorative of of "Liberal / Conservative." By the way, can you define each of them in terms that make sense?

Personally, I have seen few things "conserved" by Conservatives. In this case the Constitution of the United States is involved = "all men created equal and endowed by their Creator . . . "
Commented: Friday, August 1st, 2014 @ 10:02 am By: Gene Scarborough
The North Carolina Constitution states: Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts. (2011-409, s. 1)

However, in the NC Constitution, they is very little stipulation as to the duties of the attorney general.

There is much stipulation as to the duties of the general assembly, and the governor. The governor is charged with enforcing the laws, and the general assembly not only makes the laws, but has the authority to Impeach elected officials.

One thing I do well know about fiduciary relationships is, and attorney's are bound by this, is that if one can not represent those that pay them to perform their duties, it is an imperative that they should resign that job.

Roy Cooper is the attorney general for the people of North Carolina, not just Liberals, who like to make up relative truths as they happen upon life's situations.

The Defense of Marriage Amendment is the law in North Carolina, whether Liberals, like Roy Cooper, likes it or not. His liberal understanding of North Carolina law as a relative truth does not apply here, as he is hired to administer the North Carolina Constitution and its laws.

For those of us with clarion thought Roy Cooper has but one choice: Resign his office. If Roy Cooper will not resign his office, he should be impeached for not executing his duties to recognize and enforce the NC Constitution - not the parts he appreciates, but all of it.

This is the way I understand things as someone who has practiced Fiduciary relationships for quite some time.
Commented: Friday, August 1st, 2014 @ 9:00 am By: Stan Deatherage
Saying it does not prove it, Stan ~~~ just print and cite the statute, if you please. Thur far, this discussion is saying, "I don't like him because he doesn't back my particular hate/prejudice."
Commented: Thursday, July 31st, 2014 @ 10:15 pm By: Gene Scarborough
As an elected official, at every level, one has a certain dictum that they must follow. It is stipulated in the North Carolina Constitution.

Just because he is a lawyer, he is not excluded from his.
Commented: Thursday, July 31st, 2014 @ 1:22 pm By: Stan Deatherage
We have a difference of opinion on the nature of what AG Cooper should do. He knew before the referendum on the Family Amendment was passed that it was likely Unconstitutional. He is the well-trained experienced Lawyer / Legislator (State Senator for Nash County). I trust his legal expertise. His father's law firm in Nash County is my "firm of choice" for personal legal advocacy.

I view his actions as "I know what the Constitution says so let's let the Federal Courts deal with it."

The pure fact he saw it as illegal has been his guide. He has not opposed it after passage because that is now the Law of our State. He is not the CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER of this State, rather the enforcer of whatever laws NC has --- irregardless of how nonsensical they might be.

If he became an Advocate, he assumes a position of conflict with the US Constitution. It rules this entire country on matters of citizen freedom and rights. The Civil War settled the matter of certain states wanting to secede. You have 2 choices on the gay issue: Secede / Accede to the wider rules of society.

I am simply amazed how prejudiced and homophobic this state is. The analysis of voting on it showed it was defeated where Educational Institutions had great impact on many citizens.

My former Seminary at Wake Forest, NC, is now a Fundamentalist-Conservative school pumping out "little Jerry Falwells" into the pulpits of NC and adjoining states by the bus load. His Moral Majority helped elect Reagan and Bush.

Were it examined in light of the US Constitution's clear position on Separation of Church and State ~~~ they should loose their tax-exempt status and pay for influence just like the Koch Brothers do for Oil Profits. Their "money of influence" is going toward getting fracking into NC as a silent Ninja coming out of the dark to pour pollutants into our aquifers.
Commented: Thursday, July 31st, 2014 @ 9:50 am By: Gene Scarborough
The job of the Attorney General of North Carolina is to be North Carolina's lawyer. That is the primary job description of this elected official.

When that elected official, who is no longer a lawmaker, will not defend that law of the state, we have a problem with the individual in question.

Roy Cooper was not elected Attorney General to run for Governor, he was elected to carry out the law of North Carolina. Whether the law is unconstitutional, as per the U.S. Constitution, is inconsequential at this point because that ruling has not yet been rendered.

And, I remind you that the Democrats have not done too well lately before the Supreme Court, so ...

Currently, this Democrat is living off of North Carolina taxpayer while formulating dreams of a personal brighter political future ... climbing the political ladder at the taxpayer's expense.

Maybe Roy Cooper should be removed from his current position, and then he can run for governor full time.
Commented: Thursday, July 31st, 2014 @ 8:42 am By: Stan Deatherage
Mr. Clifton, in my view, is like a mule with blinders on so he cannot eat more crop than he plows. That seems to be a problem of abject political narrowness from any side.

He acts as if the AG must represent a segment of NC rather than the entire state in its varied views on marriage. Moreover, this issue is under the scrutiny of the Federal District Court as to its constitutionality. I don't hear of any other State AG dealing with this since it might be a conflict of interest on a matter under review on a Federal level.

Here is what the Honorable Roy Cooper has done for me as an NC citizen since 1986:

(1) Busted Countrywide and gotten refunds for all NC citizens gouged by them in their loans to us. My refund was in the range of several thousand dollars. He certainly dealt with that one successfully!

(2) Been actively engage in the massive Scamming things going on today as a warning to citizens again such schemes and active in prosecuting anyone inside NC participating in such.

(3) Warning us of the danger of putting the SBI under a new umbrella of control which would make them political rather than investigative without regard to politics.

(4) He was my Nash County Senator before his current position. In that capacity he was always fair and balanced for real. He is not subject to bribe nor undue influence in my knowledge of him since 1986 when we moved here.

(5) I was his back door neighbor in Rocky Mount. I have done tree work for his honorable father, a well-respected Attorney in Nashville, NC. In all instances of personal involvement, he has not one blemish that I know. Such integrity I would wish for any Public Servant of any party.

If the writer can offer a single instance of proven immorality or lack of duty thus far, I will gladly listen and investigate it for myself.

All he has proven thus far is how set he is on the Marriage Amendment because it reflects his personal bias and homophobia. The Legislature sets the laws. The AG of North Carolina has limits to his power. It is great when it comes under his jurisdiction. I don't think this is one of his legislative responsibilities. That is another thing the writer must prove to me for me to follow his thinking and bias.
Commented: Wednesday, July 30th, 2014 @ 9:45 pm By: Gene Scarborough
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